Debug Your Pain
Pain Points with Max Shen
Bren Veziroglu on Teaching Tasks, Not Techniques
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Bren Veziroglu on Teaching Tasks, Not Techniques

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⏱ Timestamps

00:00:00Introduction: Movement Without Reductionism
00:01:00From Stanford Biochemistry to Movement Coaching
00:03:00Traditional Training: Isolate, Integrate, Improvise
00:06:00Why Transfer Fails in Traditional Models
00:09:00Ecological Dynamics in Combat Sports
00:18:00Constraints-Led Approach and Skill Transfer
00:21:00Enactivism vs. Ecological Dynamics
00:26:00The Role of Intention and Meaning in Movement
00:31:00What Is Beautiful Movement?
00:35:00Movement and Evolutionary Mismatch
00:41:00Nested Agency and Biological Intelligence
00:47:00Rehabilitating Without Rest: A Proactive View on Pain
00:56:00Changing Paradigms in BJJ and Movement Instruction
01:01:00Teaching With Tasks, Not Moves
01:07:00From Theory to Practice: Bringing CLA to New Disciplines
01:12:00Workshops, Collaborations, and What’s Next


📚 Resources

  • Beyond Biomechanics: The Enactive Inference Approach to Health and Movement – Shen & Frucek

  • Ramstead, M., et al. A Tale of Two Densities: Active Inference is Enactive Inference.
    Adaptive Behavior, 2019

  • Varela, F., Thompson, E., & Rosch, E. The Embodied Mind. MIT Press, 2016

  • Lehman, G. Recovery StrategiesGreg Lehman’s Website

  • Fighting Monkey Practice


🎙 About the Guests

Bren Veziroglu studied biochemistry at Stanford and worked in molecular imaging before pivoting to the world of movement and rehabilitation. He now teaches and practices using the constraints-led approach, integrating ecological dynamics, somatics, and martial arts to train human beings — not just athletes.

Max Shen is a former machine learning researcher turned pain and cognition scientist. After facing chronic pain in grad school, he now uses computational tools at MIT to explore pain from a systems and somatic lens.


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